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Yitzchok_Bernstein_30651
Is any cut of quality beef ok raw? I've only seen Ribeye and Round. Technically a minced short rib should work too, right?
Once we are on this subject, what makes veal or lamb ok to eat raw, is it a specific cut? A certain age? etc...
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Chris_Young_80640
Here's the basic idea. The inside of a healthy muscle should be sterile. So whether ribeye or round, beef or lamb, none of this matters. The concerns, however are:
(1) The surface of meat will have bacteria on it. Doesn't really matter what cut, tenderloin or shortrib, they've both been handled and their surfaces exposed to the word. So the question is how much bacteria and of those, are any likely to be harmful? If you blanch or sear the surface, that will reduce the risk by killing the bacteria where they live. You can also do things like wash the surface of the meat in the same way you would wash any other raw food.
(2) Has something been done to the meat during processing that would bring bacteria on the surface deeper into the meat? It's a fairly common practice for producers to use techniques like "blade-tenderizing" that involves poking lots of small holes in the meat. This makes a somewhat tough cut, or lower-quality grade of meat, a bit better. Places like Costco do this, and unless you look very closely, you may not notice this has been done. Obviously doing something to meat that could carry surface bacteria deeper into the meat increases the risk to you if you eat the meat raw.
It's important to realize that nearly all food has some risk associated with eating it. We could all eat sterile canned foods all the time, I suppose, but that's probably safety overkill.
My advice, make certain that the cut of meat you're using has not been punctured in some way, choose cuts of meat that are relatively tough and flavorful, do rinse them, consider blanching and then cutting away the surface layer of the meat if you really need to reduce risk of getting sick, and then mince and enjoy.
Yitzchok_Bernstein_30651
Thanks
@Chris
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Would this mean that Bone Marrow is especially safe since its completely enclosed?
The idea of marrow butter sounds very appealing, maybe once its robo couped and passed through a tammis.
patrick_janoud_62181
hey
@makom
you can render the bone marrow and then fold it into butter and cool it down.
get the marrow of the bones and soak it in cold water over night to get rid of the blood wich gives you a cleaner
product in the end.the but the marrow in a pan and basically render it down for like 10 min.
put it thru a chinois and discard whats left of the marrow now you got your clear golden
bone marrow that you can use in your butter.
jason.r.whitworth
I eat raw meat all the time without it ever making me sick, and have done so all my life. Beef, lamb, veal, seafood etc. I am of the opinion the "raw meat" as a hazard has been somewhat exaggerated in our culture.
2-3 times a week I will buy a flank steak, or maybe a boneless short rib and chop it into tartare, mixed with some avacado, olive oil, salt, thai Chili Garlic Sauce and some lemon juice.
Sometimes i will eat pre ground meat right out of the package, ( officially a big food safety no-no)
Everything i a judgement call, if something looks sketchy or too old or is from a butcher i dont trust i might not go raw, i think a lot of it is getting your immune system in a place to handle a possible bacterial issue as well.
(FYI I am not a doctor or food safety expert, everything is purely anecdotal.)
Chris_Young_80640
@Makom
— Yes, I think a tartar of bone marrow would be fine.
(FYI: I don't own a restaurant and do not operate under health department scrutiny. And, yes, much of food safety is choosing acceptable risks, which will very from person to person).
grant
I like the bone marrow butter idea! You'll see that on ChefSteps sooner or later.
Yitzchok_Bernstein_30651
I currently do the Bone Marrow Butter pretty frequently on events. (I do alot of kosher events)
I just puree it, then blend in some herbs and use it to finish a steak, or throw it on some broccolini etc... Its more expensive then you'd think. Takes ALOT of bones and labor.
After soaking in brine, It is essentially cured, so that should reduce the risk.
Looking forward to the Chefsteps interpretation.
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