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Sodium Citrate and Sodium Hexametaphosphate

R_D__321706

Hi guys!

I pretty badly want to make this awesome cheddar sauce. However, Sodium Citrate is hard to get your hands on in Denmark. Sodium Hexametaphosphate is pretty easy, but the form you get it in is called "descaler for washing machines", which I highly doubt is food grade stuff. The latter is pretty much impossible to get your hands on if you want it food grade.

If I buy Sodium Citrate (which I guess is the same as trisodiumcitrate?), I'll have to buy 55 pounds, which yields a lifetime worth of cheddar sauce (fine with me!). The recipe says that the SHMP is a vital component, though. So even if I manage to get my hands om some sodium citrate, is it possible to get the same results, potentially substituting SHMP with something else?

Is it possible to extract the ingredients from some household ingredients, or even better; can I substitute them with something else?

Best Regards,

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matthewmicahhall

Hello, RD -- have you look at Modernist Pantry (www.modernistpantry.com)? They carry both food grade sodium citrate and SHMP in much smaller quantities and ship all over the world.

fisher23

You can make your own sodium citrate (SC) if you can't find it or run out and need some. Here is the recipe (formula) that makes 11 grams, mix 8 (7.96) grams of citric acid and 9.5 (9.48) grams of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) then add the mixed powders to your milk (or whatever other liquid you are using for other recipes). It will foam and after the foam subsides the milk (or other liquid) will contain about 11 grams of SC. You can leave out the sodium hexametaphosphate in this recipe and it will still turn out great.

If you want to make SC and save it here are the ratios, for every 2.1 grams of citric acid, use 2.5 grams of sodium bicarbonate in a little water, this ratio will yield about 2.9 grams of SC. Then on medium heat evaporate off the water and the remaining powder left in the pan is sodium citrate.

Martin_212020

These guys will send you some (from the UK), https://www.creamsupplies.co.uk/sodium-citrate-trisodium-citrate-100g

They have it in 250g and 500g pots, too,

https://www.creamsupplies.co.uk/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=219

Given we're still in the EU, there shouldn't be any additional taxes/import duties/etc. It's a good site for modernist stuff over here... so if you buy a few things the delivery cost won't seem so bad.