Wine

Has there been any discussion or thought of adding wine to the CS repertoire?

I'm thinking simple description/wiki of the different varietals, blends, styles and regions.

A basic pairing guide and why - Wine X (or A, B, D) will not over power the subtleness of the dish; The acidity of wine R (or F, H) will cut through the richness of the dish. The wine listed would not be a name but a region/style e.g. New World style Sauvignon Blanc, Alsace late harvest Riesling.

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Johan_Edstrom_5586

That would be outstanding.

tshewman

This could be part of the sous vide class. We have to do something while we're waiting for food in the water bath. ;-) Great suggestion Tim!

dr.kiuchi

If wine is done, I certainly think it would open the door to other spirits, including an ENTIRE pairing section, aperitifs, digestifs, sake, liqueurs, etc. Might even lead to a sister site for specialty cocktails / methodology.

Chris_Young_80640

What, specifically, would you want CS to explore with regards to wine. Sure, we enjoy it and are even a bit geeky about it, but I don't think we're deep experts (although I know a few).

Tim_Sutherland_52834

I'm looking at this to round out the site. As a novice cook I can come to CS and find information on knife skills, miz, cooking techniques. Recipes for hors d'oeuvres, appetisers, mains and desserts, including pre-event cocktails. There is discussion on how I can plate these recipes for maximum visual impact. There is the upcoming information that will allow me to serve killer coffee at the end of the meal. The only thing missing for me to plan a great dinner party is what style of wine to serve with the meal, and why that wine would compliment the meal.

Wine is a massive subject and it does open the door to beverage (alcohol and nonalcoholic) pairings which can be very a subjective and passionate area.

On a personal note, I am a lazy man and I can find many sites with information/techniques/recipes for food. I can also find many sites on wine and occasionally it might state wine X pairs well with food Y (no link to a recipe or details on why it pairs well). But I am yet to find a site that seamlessly links the two.

HammeredChef_DEFINITELY_does_NOT_work_at_22134

I think a wine class would be awesome. Many people still are under the misconception that white meats and fish are white wine food and red meats are red wine food or that "rose" wines are all trash (that used to be the case). I don't think the 101 class would need to get into terroir, just be a good basic "California Cabs work well with....while a Pinot pairs nicely with..".

borgech

I think this would be a great opportunity to crowd source a class from the community; perhaps a CS community built class? I believe that all of us collectively have a huge amount of knowledge (ie. this wine was great with this, this wine sucked with this) that could be put into a data base of sorts on the site. There are already many many resources on the web for wine (a favorite of mine is http://winefolly.com/blog/, especially her info-graphics). We also have a collective knowledge of different flavors and aromas found in wine, more so collectively than any one sommelier has in their tool kit.

The NY times is doing this wine club thing, and I think the CS platform would be a great way to do something similar. We all have the capability of finding the same bottle. It would be awesome to all get the same bottle and taste through it, pairing with different foods and posting our results. This would be something that builds over time, sort of like the ingredient Wiki but for wine instead.

I would be willing to start plugging wines into the ingredient wiki if everyone agrees that is a good starting point? We would need to collectively agree on an organizational hierarchy (by region (easier) or grape (much harder probably) before we started so that there is continuity. I look forward to the continued discussion on this!

tshewman

Similar to the course structure currently employed, perhaps the geeky portion, a portion dedicated to myths and facts. Decanting and aeration techniques. What wines to use in some dishes (e.g. what type of red for a stock versus a jus and does it make a difference, vermouth or white wine with rice dishes and what each brings etc etc). Then perhaps food pairings, traditional and non-traditional that work (a primer if you will).

Andrew_Hsu_30145

I've moved this post to the 'Everything Else' category as we'd like to reserve 'Bugs & Features' exclusively for community software feedback.

Chris_Young_80640

You would very much have our support if the community wants to get behind putting information together. My suggestion is get two or three people who are active to agree to undertake the task, then let us know that you've formed a cabal and we'll work with you.

Manfred_18311

Chris.B, I see no reason not to put wine in the ingredient wiki since there is vinegar, whisky, beer and other alcohol/non-alcohol liquids used in cooking and already part of the wiki. A separated wine wiki…., I don’t know really.., you won’t be able to compete with Johnson on base of expertise. Personally I would love to have a section with sausage making or bread baking or distilling essences but I suppose there comes a day when CST will take on those subjects in a class.

Having a class which breaks down wine in its structures and explain why wine can change the taste of a dish and how it should be used in cooking.., sure I would support it!

Brendan_Lee_56950

I like the idea of a few basic infographics for the big wine varieties and food pairings. If we get a nice list going I can work on an infographic, just got a new digital tablet i'm itching to practice with.

Jack_Mayer_85396

Tim, I agree this is a great idea! While my knowledge/expertise on wines is probably "middle of the road," I would be very willing to assist in any way I can.

Matthew_Snyder_68770

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johnbonds

IMO this is not really the place for in depth discussion on wine. That's not to say there isn't a place for it on here. Perhaps thoughts on what wines would pair well with particular dishes. There are other forums where one can dig themselves deep into wine culture such as http://www.wineberserkers.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=1 or Cellartracker.com.