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Who's Excited about Joule?

Ryan_Jones_36451

ChefSteps enters the appliance market!

https://www.chefsteps.com/joule

Who's excited? I already have a Polyscience circulator but have been in the market for another immersion circulator to prepare veggies and sides along with my proteins.

I think there's two things that make this product unique:

1) Size - it seems truly portable, which is very attractive.

2) Software updating - ultimately, it seems as though you're buying into a system, more than merely a product. Sure, we can't imagine future possibilities today, but it sure will be nice to be able to expand the functionality of existing products when we can see those possibilities.

I must say, I wish circulators came with a better water container solution. I love being able to attach it to nearly any pot or cambro, but having that custom cambro lid to prevent steam evaporation is a huge plus for long cooking times. Only the polyscience has such an option, and I don't really like the idea of hundreds of hollow (and somewhat expensive) balls to act as a lid. Plastic wrap seems wasteful and clunky.

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HammeredChef_DEFINITELY_does_NOT_work_at_22134

Have an Anova, VRW, and just bought the Joule. April is a long ways away....

jason.r.whitworth

I have not looked too deep but its not clear how much better it is then the Anova with the iPhone app (for more money). Stats wise it seems like Joule is less precise then the Anova, but more powerful and likely heats up faster.

reck.harm

Gotta say, i was hoping for something else. For starters i already have 2 circulators, but even if i hadn't I propably wouldn't buy it. Sure its small and looks really nice, but i don't really care about optics in kitchen appliances. Size isn't a factor either because my circulators have dedicated spots on my counter top. Now the Magnet thing is brilliant, but i use cambros so sorry, not for me. Also i like actual controls on my tools.

I see why they made the choices they did, but it's not really that interesting to me. Offcourse it won't come to europe for a while, if at all, so the point is kinda moot anyways.

mike.minasian

To me, one of the big detriments to my current Anova setup is heat up time, especially for veggies (at 194). The Anova has a 1kW heater, and this has an 1100W heater so I'm not sure if the extra 100 watts will make a huge difference. I think the magnet idea is amazing, especially because for a lot of people on this site, the "second" circulator is likely going to be used with a pot. I think it will be tough sledding at that price point. Portability is nice, and its definitely a looker, but when time and temperature are the only variables, I feel like the visual recipe system on the app is mostly helpful for newer users. Hard to say. I'll probably reserve one, and see what to do about one of my two circulators....

EDIT: I ended up getting one. To be honest it's almost as much to support the overall mission of CS as it is for the device itself. I think they need to find a killer app within the app. Visual recipes have been done, although perhaps not as well. If they are going to do visual recipes for ALL of their existing catalog of recipes and not just the core meat options that could be helpful. I think a similar take for more different and exotic forms of fish could be interesting.

tshewman

I was fortunate to see Joule in action during my recent visit to Chefsteps. The fact that we can control it from anywhere using an android or IOS device was nicely thought out (in other words, phone goes down, pick up a tablet).

The time to heat is where it subjectively kicks the anova's rear (IMHO) and the ability to maintain temp when putting in product (WITH NO LID!) really impressed me (this is personally my favorite feature). I find the Anova really struggles with this and I have to start it quite a few degrees higher. If you have a taller stock pot (e.g. 12qt or larger), you could use the lid with it barely off (limit evaporation), for the smaller stock pots, ...........I would hope we're not doing too many long cooks in a small stock, but the option is there. I actually had them try it in a coffee mug and because the circulating water was above it was like a waterfall, but the take home was I could actually use one of my metal mixing bowls and poach eggs (maybe even in oil :-)) right in it. The app rocks! I ended up deleting the Anova App (yes I like my Anova-please don't misunderstand) as it wasn't worth the space on my phone. The interactive app CS has created could be sold on it's own especially for any newbies and warnings (e.g. power goes out if I recall correctly) for us long cookers. Will I buy one? probably when it's available. I like it much better than the Anova (My PS is my rock :-)..) but I need the back up for now. So when the time comes, I'll have an Anova for sale for ~$100ish and I'll be putting a joule in my hand. For what it's worth.

mike.minasian

Great to hear a firsthand experience. Unfortunately, the current CS app, at least on Android needs some love. Presumably this app would replace the need for that app as the same app that houses the recipes also houses the control of the Joule.

borgech

First: I

ChefSteps.

I'll echo what has been said before me. I likely will be buying one not because I need one but because I want to support ChefSteps. I was honestly hoping that there would be some ports/connectivity for thermocouple wires so the device could monitor the temp of what was in the bag, and then spit out a graph on the app. This would be very useful for cooking game meat where pasteurization is integral (bear, for example). I would love to be able to: "When at 60*, wait 5 min and then notify". Perhaps this will come in an update, as I am sure the CS crew has thought of this (I have bluetooth thermocouples already, iGrill2).

As an aside, the narrator in the promo video is like nails on a chalkboard to me (sorry, to whoever it is). I really miss the narration by @Chris_Young_80640 and whoever has been doing them as of late. I know what you guys were going for, but think it is too much and it is really out of place on the site. I'd suggest re-narrating it with a more gentle voice that is in line with all your other videos so there is more consistency on the site.

Matthew_Snyder_68770

Pre-ordered one today, and I might end up getting another one after the hols.

I was considering buying a new Anova a couple weeks ago, but held off. (For no real reason) I'm glad I did, if for no other reason than what you say in your edit. I preach the ChefSteps gospel to all who will listen (and few who, stubbornly, do not), but spreading the word only does so much good. I'm glad to directly give my business to ChefSteps, as I feel like I've come further as a cook in my first year here than I had in the previous 10-12 years.

That said, I think the design is slick (MAGNETS!), and the app looks to be the bees knees.

tshewman

As I see it, they would be complementary. It's interactive, you can:

1. Choose the temp and start

2. Choose a product, temp based on desired finish and hit start (e.g. steak has ~6-8 temps if I recall).

3. After you choose a temp, or protocol/setting hit start and adjust on the fly (e.g. if you're out somewhere and want to reduce temp to keep it warm-cool feature).

4. Links to other side dishes from the more traditional app.

Not sure if they will make it an "all in one......but I liked it. :-)

mike.minasian

Magnet is a real stroke of genius, especially for the average cook. Unfortunately, I doubt this is patent-able and will probably be ripped off in the next round of circulators.

The more I think about it, the competitive advantage that CS has over Anova and all other competitors is their library of recipes, techniques, and experience. The device has to be on par, and be able to seamlessly integrate that into the experience. I'm hoping it will deliver!

Alex_36374

Between my Sousvide Supreme (which believe it or not, still has it's incredible uses), Anova and Sansaire, I'm desperately trying to find a way to justify this purchase! Of all my machines, I do love the Anova the most. *Not sure CS needed to bash it in the video

Looking forward to hearing people's reviews after they use Joule. Congrats to CS though, looks like you guys did a great job.

Matthew_Snyder_68770

I wouldn't be surprised if the magnetic bit is patentable. Depends on the particulars of the design, if it's 'unique' enough, and not just a magnetic base.

brian_martin2001

I was really looking forward to today. At 200 USD, for what it is, quite a steal. But, call me crazy, the one feature that I really do not like is, and correct me if I'm wrong, you NEED to have a smart phone or tablet with the app on it. This is something which really turns me off. Yes, it's convenient an all that, but I like having an independent interface, and I just don't see that on this device. Time will tell I guess.

coryhansen78

Just pre-ordered. I am excited - I've been sous viding for many years now but have never owned a circulator(!). I have been using a PID-controlled (very large) rice cooker, which works well but has some limitations that a circulator nicely overcomes.

For the past few years I have been pondering buying one, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Glad I waited. The Joule looks really well thought-out-- nice power, size, clean design and smartphone-integrated. As others have mentioned, the magnet is a fantastic idea, the clip options are a nice touch too. Now the wait.

Chris_Young_80640

Folks, thanks for your interest in Joule. We've been pretty heads down on this for a while, so it's nice to finely be able to talk about it and answer questions.

Here are some answers to the technical questions that you all have about Joule.

(1) Power: Joule is rated at 1100 watts, but it is actually quite a bit faster at preheating. For example, our testing shows us preheating 20 to 30% faster than other circulators that we're getting compared to. That's because all of the waste heat associated with the power switching, power supply, brushless DC motor, etc is routed to the water. In traditional immersion circulators, all of the waste heat is vented into the air. So that let's us get more power from less.

This doesn't just help with preheating, it helps maintain or recover the temperature when you add or remove food, which also helps get the food cooked faster.

(2) Accuracy/Precision: We will be as accurate as any immersion circulator on the market. It's easy to claim unrealistic accuracy and precision, it's far harder to actually deliver on those claims. Keep in mind that most instant-read digital thermometers are significantly less accurate than the RTDs or high-precision thermistors used in immersion circulators.

(3) We kind of expected that the lack of physical controls will be surprising. Until we get this into your hands, I don't think we'll change any minds. But when some of you start to experience how we've integrated it into the app, and how extensible it will be across other devices, we think you're going to love it. But we're going to be paying a lot of attention to our community's feedback on the experience.

(4) The advantage of the app is that we can keep improving Joule as fast as possible and not obsolete the hardware over time. Yes, we're betting that ChefSteps is going to be able to do some great things for you in the kitchen leveraging software and content.

(5) Of course, there are a lot of ways people are going to want to interact with their sous vide tools—lots of plots for example—and we recognize that we cannot build the perfect app for everyone. That's why we're committed to supporting developers who want to extend Joule in ways that we never anticipated. If you've got an idea, be sure to reach out to us: https://www.chefsteps.com/joule/specs (link at the bottom of the page).

(6) We're going to be working to get the international version out as fast as possible. It's not really an engineering problem, it's down to how long it takes to get certifications done, make sure we're compliant with selling and supporting a product in each country, and getting logistics in place so that our international members can get affordable and fast shipping.

(7) Chris B, sorry you didn't like the voice over.

Matthew_Snyder_68770

This is the most exciting thing to come out of ChefSteps since..... ever? So awesome.

Re certification of electronic goods in Europe....................................................... it's a bloody nightmare. There are so many EU-level regulations that are left to the individual nations to implement. So, like Germany has one set of rules for, Spain has another set for the exact same practice, etc. times 25 or whatever countries. My company actually got de-listed from a large German retailer for the first six months of this year because of not having an e-waste recycling partner in place. That was fun.

Afonso_Tito_de_Morais_164825

IMO that's my only issue with Joule: that I can't ship it to my house right now. Sucks that it's so hard for overseas trades to happen.

Jerry_Bright_31817

How do you clean the unit? Can it be taken apart to remove stains and calcium deposits under the shell?

ipreferale

Pre-ordered and cannot wait to give it a good workout and some good eating...

Chris_Young_80640

The foot unscrews easily (1 and 1/4 turn), the impeller pops off the shaft, and the inside of the heater is a seamless, polished stainless steel tube that can be easily wiped clean. No nooks or crannies that are hard to reach or clean. No places for mold to grow.

Tim_Sutherland_52834

Can I run more than one Joule in the same kitchen from the same app - different time and temps (protein and vege), or paired (really big water bath or multiple baths with the same product)?

tshewman

Yes, you will be able to run multiple units (I had this question as well).

tshewman

Yes, there is no interface on the device. Minor trade off (IMHO)

tshewman

Hi Alex, I have an Anova nd like it.......but I saw the Joule in action and I would respectfuly submit, the Joule is well above.

ejf12009

I'm a big ChefSteps fan, so I'm sad to report that I'm underwhelmed. I don't have an iPhone or Android phone, so I can't use Joule. But even if I did, I'd still be super skeptical. A lack of physical controls just feels like a huge step backward. First of all, I don't use my phone in the kitchen: the phone is fragile and not remotely water resistant and gets in the way and isn't terribly clean. And while I can think of a few exotic things an app might be useful for, I can't see how any app - or anything that makes me interact with another device - improves over the standard control case of other circulators: hit power and turn a dial to the right temperature. It takes longer to find and unlock my phone.

Also, if the machine has physical controls, here's the list of things that can make me unable to use the circulator: the physical machine is broken. If it's controlled only by app, here's the list: physical machine is broken, my home wifi isn't working, my phone is broken, my phone is out of battery, I lost my phone, incompatibility between my phone os and the current version of the app, serious bug in the app. In particular I have to trust that ChefSteps will continue keeping the app up to date, otherwise at some point in the future I'll have to choose between updating my phone but no longer being able to use the circulator app or not keeping my phone up to date. This isn't a robust solution at all.

And absolutely, Joule looks gorgeous. The magnet at the bottom and high efficiency and such are nice perks, but hardly "this changes everything" territory. I already have two circulators (old and new Anova), and they're super easy and painless to use. By reputation the same can be said for Sansaire, Nomiku, Polyscience, etc. Do I like the look of the magnet and design and super low minimum water depth? You betcha, but not enough to feel like I need a third circulator, not enough to offset the frustration of no physical controls.

My biggest complaints about sous vide cooking are the difficulty of getting a smoke-free sear in an urban apartment, floating bags, volume of ice required for cook-chill, concerns about plastic waste, etc. A better circulator solves none of these.

And hey, prove me wrong. Let the reviews be unanimous in effusive praise, convince me I need to buy an Android/iOS tablet and a Joule together. ChefSteps has been good to me over the last 3 years, so I'd be thrilled to see the Joule succeed.* I guess we'll find out. Either way, congrats to the ChefSteps team on a big launch, and best of luck!

*Though huge success so would signal it's okay to make kitchen appliances without physical controls, which it is not.

tshewman

Hi Jason, see above. Heats up faster and doesn't plummet when you put product in the bath. Recovers quickly.

brian_martin2001

Oh well. Maybe they'll change it on their next model. If/then they create one with controls, I'll be down for that.

JasonWirth_68226

I'm not a fan of a device without physical controls, but I really trust CS on this. Often the best R&D is use a bunch of products, find they are flawed in some way, then create your own damn device.

Additionally, CS has a kind of X-factor -- design sensibilities. They use the best technologies in the kitchen, have a clear sense of style of food preparation; their website, likewise, is cutting edge, using the latest technologies with great design. I trust Joule will follow the tradition.

One aspect that I really appreciate, an SDK. As a software developer these types of details show they want an open platform where people can develop and grow. Say you connect Joule to a voice system like Amazon Echo, you can control everything hands-free while in the kitchen. If the choice is between physical controls or an open SDK, give me the SDK any day!

Chris_Young_80640

Evan: Certainly sorry that we've left you disappointed. We hope to convince you, although it seems like it's a pretty steep hill we'll have to climb.

Jason: Yes, opening Joule up to developers such as you is really important. We want more, not less, innovation in the kitchen. So it's entirely possible for someone to create another mobile app to control Joule, but they don't have to do all of the work to handle security, cloud services, safety, etc. And, of course, perhaps someone will create physical controls for Joule and other products. But, ultimately, we need to get these into your hands so that we can start to learn whether we're solving the problems we're trying to solve.

Minh_Huynh_48807

Am I missing anything.. some says that they pre-ordered it. I don't see a link nor an option to do so but only a 'Keep me posted'. Please advise where to go.

Thank you

Minh

brian_martin2001

https://www.chefsteps.com/joule right below the video it's a link " claim yours now" that'll redirect you. Are you in the United States? I have read elsewhere that there are issues with international orders.

lebrun.virgile

As an international user and someone who would principally get Joule to support Chefsteps, I wish I could take advantage of the current special pricing even if I have to wait longer for the actual unit. I already own a circulator so by the time I get it, and with the exchange rate, $299 USD means it will get knocked down quite a few spots on the kitchen gear wish list.

Apart from that the unit specs and design look great. I am neutral on the fact that there's no physical controls. I would have preferred that there be some, but with the way I use my current circulator I could easily control it with my phone.

Overall, I do have to applaud the Chefsteps team and wish them success. They did not go for the easy way as the competition for the home sous-vide market is already pretty strong.

elviswasjesus

Hi Evan, I was just listening to a guest spot Chris did on Dave Arnold's Cooking Issues show yesterday. In it, he explained a little more about why Chefsteps decided not to go with physical controls. You can listen to the whole show here - you probably know it already, but it's well worth it:

http://heritageradionetwork.org/podcast/run-the-joules/

Hopefully I'm not mangling what Chris meant, but what I inferred from the interview was that "this changes everything" really refers to the user experience. You or I may know to the exact degree we want to cook our steak or egg or pork shoulder (and for how long), however we're in the minority.

Giving people new to low-temp cooking an interface that shows them the end result or "visual doneness" of their food and then allows them to achieve that simply, without requiring they know the time and temperature they need, is an extremely compelling offering.

Anova's made some good steps towards that (using smartphones as an interface too of course), but Chefsteps has some natural advantages: it's already a highly visible resource for people looking to learn more about low temperature cooking, and also has the resources (both UI, and the maths-weapon that is Douglas Baldwin) to create an robust interface that calculates results for any kind and size of protein.

You can put an interface like this in an app far more easily, cost effectively, and with greater adaptability, than in a circ itself.

The potential market for a circulator that is also a user-friendly entry-point to low temperature cooking, and that requires barely any more knowledge than users already have, is enormous. The problems you or I have, by contrast, are currently niche (and we already own circs of course). But I'm certain Chefsteps and others are working on them too.

lebrun.virgile

I don't think there is an issue with international orders, they're simply unavailable at this time. We get a Keep us posted link instead of the Claim yours now.

Chris_Young_80640

We're very committed to making international units available as soon as possible. The uncertainty of how quickly is the result of getting the required certifications done and getting distribution in place so that there are affordable shipping options. Hence, we don't want to over promise and under deliver, which is why we're limiting this to US customers only right now.

But when we do launch international orders, we'll make sure that customers who expressed interest early get the opportunity of a similar savings.

mike.minasian

Will we get an early preview of the app at any point? Would be really interested in what you are cookin' up, no pun intended...

Rich_McDonough_67546

I have a Sansaire and a Nomiku having backed both on Kickstarter. Not pleased with the Sansaire - it's massive and build quality is poor. The screen LEDs started going after a few months and while they may have replaced it if I had complained, I'm overseas so it was too difficult - but it really shouldn't have gone in the first place. I'm very happy with the Nomiku (and if anyone wants to snag a 220v machine while they wait for the 220v Joule they can use the code 'moodtherapist' to cut the price from $199 to $149 direct from www.nomiku.com ;-)) and am interested to see how version 2 comes out. That said, I'll be snagging a Joule when the International version is on sale. I like the apparent portability. I hope Chefsteps will supply each one with a nice molded plastic carry case that will protect it and keep it compact for such use. No one else has done it but it seems like a no brainer to me...

tshewman

FWIW, they can also communicate via bluetooth. One could reasonably tape a cheap tablet or phone to the wall (or near by) if they wanted a dedicated interface. The device interface is something they already thought about (it was one of my questions) and after using it for a few minutes.....well, my worries went away. So you have physical controls....they simply are not attached to the device.

Chris_Young_80640

Yes, we're definitely working on ways to show you more of the app.

mike.minasian

Happy to attend some Sprint Reviews if you guys need pointed feedback

Alex_36374

The specs on it sounds incredible. Trying to justify my purchase, given that I have three Sousvide devices. I'll probably get one. I'd love for CS to make a vacuum chamber sealer.

Emmett_Barton_12803

Absolutely. The ability to control multiple Joules with one app is something we've designed around from day one. This probably won't be available by May, however, it's something we'll be working on enabling with a software update.

Jerry_Bright_31817

What is the minimum temperature of the unit? Can I use it to circulate in an ice bath?

Brandon_Schilling_181464

I will probably buy one. I currently have an Anova Precision Cooker (the second one they released, the one with bluetooth) and love.

The Joule looks to be a bit more portable than the already portable Anova PC, but it looks like it a;so has some downsides. The adjustable clip on the Anova, while bulkier, is much more flexible. It's a trade-off I am fine with, since it will be the second cooker in my arsenal. Also, the lack of physical buttons. I seldom use the phone app on my Anova. I'm cooking, my hands are messy and I don't want to get my phone out.

Jerry_Bright_31817

Will the customer be able to calibrate the unit?

Jack_Mayer_85396

I will most likely get a Joule, if for no other reason than to support ChefSteps. Now I need to figure out what to do with the other 4 units (SVS, PS, Anova and Sansaire) that I have ... The Anova is brand new, never been used, anyone interested? (its the bluetooth version) I got the PolyScience a over 3 years ago from the store here at CS. The Sansaire was acquired from SLT at a nice discount. Any thoughts on the best way to sell the Anova to offset the cost of the Joule? Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving to all!

Chris_Young_80640

There will be no need to calibrate the unit. The design of our temperature control system will drift less than 0.03 °C from its factory calibration.

Chris_Young_80640

We'll put this on the feature request list.

mike-chefsteps

Cool. In Liquid Intelligence, Dave Arnold talked about dry ice, alcohol, and a circulator set to -16 or so. I've become an equally big fan of using cold liquid (alcohol, brine) to remove heat from drinks as I am of putting it into protein...

corynicholasjohnson

Most of the discussion I've seen about Joule is all about the lack of physical control and the app. One of the arguments seems to be, what if I lose my phone, what if my phone/tablet breaks etc.

Given the wifi connectivity, has any thought been put into a web interface or desktop app that can be accessed from any computer? Even if this was just a stripped down control, almost like a backup I think it might help some people's fears.

Jerry_Bright_31817

I would like to make custard in a bath with a gentle circulation. For this the Sous Vide Supreme works well. Will the Joule be able to vary the circulation speed?

brian_martin2001

As far as the concerns: losing the cell phone, what if it breaks, etc. i find these concerns not quite as plausible as some of the members allude them to be. for a windows based os, i have yet to see anything. apple store tends to have more carry over with their app store, according to friends. for me, it's not a concern about what if something happens to my phone, I just don't like the design having no physical controls. I'm not saying it's a bad design, it's just a design that I have no desire to use.

As the product becomes available, I'm thinking the folks who are honestly concerned with potential harm coming to their phone will eventually get over it, because most peoples cell phone does play a major role in peoples lives: banking, social media, work/school, navigation systems, etc. i think being able to control a kitchen appliance is a very low grade concern at best, and this concern will lessen when put into perspective when they are faced with the actual product. if you go to the questions link at the bottom of the joule page, they have already addressed what to do if something happens to your phone and cannot connect it to your unit after you've already started running your Joule unit.

as for folks like me who just don't like the design, we'll probably just wait until they create a design with stand alone controls, or invest in an immersion circulator that does.

brian_martin2001

are you putting the unit directly into the custard? unless you're putting it directly into the custard, i can't imagine the flow rate having much of an effect on the food you're making. the flow is designed to keep the water moving so no area is cooler than any other area. the sous vide supreme has no circulator, but is designed so there will be no cold or hot spots. if you are putting the unit directly into the custard base, they recommend not putting it into anything other than water.

Chris_Young_80640

That is something we plan to support. It may not be ready for launch, but our goal is to have Joule be controllable from a diversity of devices.

Samuel_68313

I would probably get one but obviously it's not available to me. Feels like a bit of a kick in the teeth to the none US legion of CS, which I know is quite large. I'd been checking back regularly wondering what this announcement was and it turned out to be something largely irrelevant to me and a good chunk of CS members.

Still, it looks great and I am happy to see CS develop something like this, hopefully it draws more people to the site and drives more content.

Jerry_Bright_31817

I place ramekins with custard on a rack in a container that has water 1/2 inch from the ramekin lip. I leave it in a 180˚ F water bath for an hour. Too much turbulence would cause water to spill into the ramekin.

Afonso_Tito_de_Morais_164825

Circulation shouldn't be a problem unless you're using a really small pot. I've cooked custards sous-vide fully submerged (pot on stove), with no water infiltration. Maybe you're tightening the lids too loosely?

Afonso_Tito_de_Morais_164825

Interesting point, when I make icecream I have to eat it the night it's done for best texture, since my freezer is too harsh for storing it for a long time. Having a bath at -14C to keep the tubs ready for service quenelling would be a very nice way to keep it fresh.

brian_martin2001

you might want to consider using containers that have seal-able lids, like the ones in the Crème Brûlée video

reck.harm

Will there be some kind of SDK or a REST-API or something? because that way i think you could quite easily integrate it into a homeautomation system and i think that would be cool.
Also as someone who said the he wants physical controls i get why you didn't go that way.
For a slick device like the joule to have a simple 7-Segment LCD would be laughable and having a proper color display in an embedded device raises your hardware requirements considerably. Also there's size. And something with proper Buttons instead of membrane switches would be a nightmare to seal. So i get it.

Also one thing i like to comment on because i think it doesn't get enough attention, is your decision to make the device watercooled. It's almost painfully obvious if you think about it. So thumbs up for that.

Well it's gonna be a while untill it's avaialable over here anyways, so if one of my circulators breaks till then may be i'l get one.

Please do let me know, when you come up with a home-sized, home-prized centrifuge though!

julian.lo

Wow, congrats to all the folks at ChefSteps involved in putting this together—the results look fantastic!

I think I might have missed this since it seems obvious, but will the app have both a Fahrenheit and Celsius interface? From the quick videos, it looked like everything was in Fahrenheit, but for some reason, I've only committed the Celsius temperatures to memory when doing sous vide work.

julian.lo

Apparently Dave Arnold's working on that home-sized centrifuge. I think the preorder page was supposed to be up today, but that's been delayed since there's some striking going on at the motor supplier. He's been dropping some specs about it on the recent episodes of Cooking Issues if you want to get some more details!

Chris_Young_80640

Yes, we're going to provide the ability to leverage Joule with a well-documented REST-API. In fact, we built it with this in mind from day 1.

Chris_Young_80640

The app can flip units easily. In fact, in quick-start mode it will auto-detect whether you meant Fahrenheit or Celsius. For example, type 60 and it knows you meant 60 C. If you enter 110 it knows you meant 110 F. If you tap on the temperature it will flip the display from C to F and vice versa.

Chris_Young_80640

Samuel, we're working to get international units available as soon as possible. The international design is complete, and the delay is due to completing international certifications, making sure we're compliant with local laws (Europe is a lot of work in this regard), and getting distribution in place so that we can offer you the best possible price and low-cost shipping.

Emmett_Barton_12803

Hey everyone,

We made it really easy to set the temperature in the app. It's way faster than anything we've used in the kitchen. Check out this short video showing how to set the temperature: https://vimeo.com/147148220

And we have another video demonstrating how Visual Doneness works: https://vimeo.com/147148219. Please give these a watch.

Katherine_Hannula_Bral_30514

Woke up, read my email and immediately pre-ordered Joule. (LOVE the video!) Already own a PS and just ordered an Anova One (holiday sale) and yet couldn't pass on Joule. Yes, I believe in supporting CS. Even more, however, I trust that CS will deliver a fantastic experience with Joule.

Samuel_68313

Yeah I appreciate and understand that, just wish we could get to play with it now!

robert.c.brown15

All of the pictures downplay the power cord, understandably, to the point where I forget you need to plug it in. I'm looking forward to an inmersion circulator that is exactly like the Joule, but battery operated. Not saying I don't underatand how impossible that may be and that isn't a make or break deal for me, but can you imagine? That would be pretty incredible!

pgcath

Just pre-ordered. 3 days late. Congrats on the product launch!

There were a lot of reasons I ordered the Joule, but supporting ChefSteps was easily the deciding factor. You all have consistently done the right thing for your community, and I vote with my dollars.

Also, it's flippin' awesome!

Chris_Young_80640

It would be pretty impossible.

ejf12009

Web interface would be a huge upgrade! I'm glad you're thinking about this.

Ryan_Jones_36451

That's pretty incredible. Wow.

robert.c.brown15

Maybe in 10 years!

Ellen_212162

Thank you so much!

Ellen_212162

We hear you! Thanks so much for your patience...we can't wait to get them out the door to all of you!

tshewman

The challenge is at least two fold. Waterproof power and size. The waterproof can be accomplished via resins, however, the transmission of information through the water is impossible (hence there has to be part of Joule exposed for control). Wifi signal (or bluetooth-it would have to be sonar) does not travel through water. So the next step (if it happens) it would need to be programmed outside of the water and then submerged if you will (it would be like a waterproof datalogger that delivers temperature). Then there's no communication after (a bit of a downside) if completely submerged. And if not completely submerged, not a huge advantage of being battery operated (If you want to take it camping, you can already buy portable batteries that would operate it) So part of it for now needs to be above water. Not a bad idea to be thinking to he future, but this is the situation of wireless technologies currently (dealt with it in my work).

brian_martin2001

While I'm sure, sooner or later, there will be developments that will allow for it, my question it's Why would you want it? What's the utility in having a battery operated immersion circulator?

HammeredChef_DEFINITELY_does_NOT_work_at_22134

getting a CE mark is excruciating...I have had to do it with several devices

Chris_Young_80640

Yes, it is.

me0969

I already got an immersion circulator, but by the looks of it, this new CS Joule will turn my current one into a secondary next year.
- Cheers from Denmark.

Jeff_Shewmon_32552

Right there, that's it, I'm sold!!!

Jo_o_81757

A home-sized centrifuge would be amazing. I'd also love to see ChefSteps' take on a vacuum chamber/sealer.

daniel_194568

could be charcoal powered with the electricity to run the cpu and radios only powered by battery or thermoelectric peltier device with a controlled fan blowing on the charcoal to vary the heat. .

sam_15285

if i were in your position, I would wait until i got the Joule before i decided which to get rid of.

sam_15285

more important in a small bath than a large one, I would think?

what is the real importance of that recovery time difference, since one of the underlying strengths of sous vide, esp at home, is to make time less critical?

sam_15285

interesting that so many like the idea of magnets. what magnets means is that the device can stand alone on the bottom of the pot, unless you use the clamp device to clamp it to the side: for the right combo of pot and volume of water, that might be fine. or not, for other combos of container size and water volume.

saves 15 seconds of time. great.

it IS elegant, though.

tshewman

Well, for me with things like bla\nching potatoes for fries, or roasted potatoes this means I have to wait longer before the next step. For me personally, when it's a Saturday morning and I have functions I need to attend (or an early work morning) ever minute counts.