Go to the Recipe: Rich as F*¢k Cornbread
Is there a rule of thumb for measuring the core temperature of baked goods? Love this tip, I plan on using it frequently in my own recipes once I understand the what core temperatures to be on the lookout for!
There is some more info on this in the intro for our brioche activity:http://www.chefsteps.com/activ...
Edit: I have asked a question written above. I overlooked that part where the information about isomalt was given.
Thanks Chris. Please consider doing a baking & pastry course where the focus is on optimal core temperatures and humidity to achieve the perfect crumb. Of course focus on the combi-oven that you have in your test kitchen, but please put emphasis on modifying recipes for those who do not have access to a humidity controlled oven, as well as for those like me that have a steam oven that does not have a dedicated wet bulb or steam measurement setting (such as the Cuisinart Combo+Steam toaster oven, or any of the new home combo ovens hitting the market recently). Keep up the good work, this has fast become one of my favorite websites!
Read the introduction to understand why we add isomalt.
Is there any good substitute for the eggs? I have an egg allergy.
You can leave the egg out and still get a pretty good result.
Hmm. Ok. I wondered if the bread would crumble more without the egg serving as a binding agent. Maybe the egg doesn't make a lot of difference, though?
It will be more crumbly, unfortunately it's pretty tricky to replace the egg in a recipe like this. A little bit of xanthan gum and soy lecithin would be better, but would require some experimentation to get right.
Just had a batch come out of the oven and they were just fantastic. With your honey butter they were the best I have ever tasted. I have made the one out of MC and while it was good, this one is so much better IMHO...How much ahead of time could one make the batter before baking them off so they they would be fresh and hot out of the oven? I would like to make them for an upcoming party and I have guests showing up at different times.
Is there any good substitute for Isomalt ? For example Ksylitol ( Xylitol ) ?
What size of cast iron pan? 10in? 12? yours there looks like an 8?
- originally posted by Fava d'Aronne
Sorbitol would probably work okay in this recipe.
Hi, I would be a little concerned about the quantity of isomalt used in this recipe, isomalt becomes a laxative if not used sparingly, there is a fairly substantial quantity in this one. great site guys, I am just about to launch a new product called "Jiggy Jiggy Jel" it could replace the egg foer the guy with the allergy, I will try it and come back and let you know, if you are interested in trying to Gel I can send you some to play with, stopd hollandaise splitting, thickens sauce without any skinning or carbs, calories etc, stops ice cream melting, keeps foams stable for 30 mins etc, regards Helpmechef
I have a few clarification points as my first batch is in the oven... Should i have blended the corn and the butter after toasting corn? I strained the butter off this time and well see how it turned out.Do let the corn mixture cool after toasting, it basically made a custard as the eggs cooked in the blender under the hot temps of the corn.At altitude it took a little closer to 20 minutes to bake.Starting to look great and i cant wIt to taste it!
- originally posted by Downs1000
Yes, you should have blended the corn and butter together. The butter is part of the fat that tenderizes the crumb of the cake. And, yes, it would have been best to have cooled the corn a bit before blending, or added the cream and milk first to lower the temperature before adding the eggs. I've corrected that step now. Sorry for the confusion.
Yes, there is a lot of isomalt in the total recipe, but keep in mind this makes 12 mini loaves. So even if you ate two loaves (and that would be a lot), you would be well below the threshold where isomalt causes discomfort.
Ouch! This was waaay to sweet for me. Perhaps bc i am used to unsweetened eastern european type of corn bread but i will make this again without both sugars and see if i need them at all. I am after corn taste, not so much after tender crumb.
- originally posted by Bojana Snijders-Nikodijevic
You can certainly leave out all the sugar. It will completely change the texture but will still taste great.
- originally posted by Grant Lee Crilly
I made second batch without both sugars, and the texture, while different, was surprisingly tender. I guess all that butter did the job. I also added some chipotle to serve along chilli con carne. Am in love with this technique.
If I don't have access to isomalt, would replacing it with half of it's weight in sugar be a serviceable replacement?
Is it possible to just make one or two loaves? Would baking time change? I don't have mini loaves and I certainly don't need twelve. Could I halve the recipe and put it into one or two regular bread loaf pans? Or how about a cast iron 12" pan?
- originally posted by sygyzy
We bake small ones because they have develop a much better crust to mass ratio. This way we can serve and each guest gets one entire experience. You can certainly bake a large loaf, I cant say for sure what temp or time but its going to be lower temperature than the video and a longer time for sure.
Substitue for Cake flour? Regular flour + Maizena could do the trick?
My cornbread didn't grow. This is what happened exactly:- I may have overcooked the corn (no pics from that step I'm afraid). But after blending the corn with the cream and milk, it looked cut (oil was separated from solids). I blended and blended but it stayed cut- I said "what the hell" and I mixed it with the dry ingredients- it still looked cut so I put it in the mixer and whipped it high speed- it looked fixed (no longer cut) but significantly more viscous than the mixture from your video, almost glue-like- it did not grow - although it tasted great, we devoured it
Chris, would this recipe still work if I did all corn meal and no cake flour? I want to try it for a client of ours who is Celiac.
what type of isomalt should I use?
Maybe flour and yeast?
Can I substitute the isomalt with honey? Isomalt is hard to find and expensive and I really like honey corn bread... if the answer is no, can I just add the same amount of brown sugar?
I think there's a type in last sentence of step 7. Should be "batter" not "butter." That had me a little confused.
Has anybody made it skipping the isomalt?
looks over mixed
what's the purpose of using isomalt here instead of sugar?
I realize this may have been asked more than a couple times, but i was wondering What a good alternative to isomalt would be, since here un Colombia this product is hard to come by. Thanks
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Are you buying only organic corn? Are you sure?
I generally believe that I have a sweeter palette than most people, but this was SWEET. It had a very strong corn taste but it was also so sweet i was rushing for a cup of milk to wash down the sweetness. I will try reducing the isomalt next time.
Chefsteps, a question and a suggestion. The mini loaf pans you have a linked to have pretty poor reviews, how would something like this work?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003VFWWWU/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_zQmiub142NV7D
And second, can I suggest a chili recipe to go with the cornbread? I'm sure the pressure cooker would make short work of it! Thanks-joe
A little Thanksgiving planning here: What can be made the day before and stored in the fridge? Entire batter? Thanks!! Love you!! Alex
Does this reheat well? Or is it illl-advised to try to make this the night before serving?
Reading those amazon reviews I'd agree, I wouldn't purchase those tins. Silicone moulds will work, however, silicone is an insulator rather than a conductor of heat, and will never brown as well as metal. There are a number of other aluminum and non-stick coated mini-loaf pans which are reasonably priced and give you better browning. (I'm not from chefsteps)
I've had success storing this tightly wrapped in the fridge for a few days, or the freezer long term. I make them into muffins, store them in heavy duty freezer bags and pop out as desired. There's so much fat it'll reheat just as buttery and delicious.
I've been able to refrigerate, freeze, and reheat the baked corn bread really well. I'm generally cautious of the reactions of quick bread leavening agents several hours later, but the experts behind this recipe may have a more informed stance on that. There are for example, fat encapsulated leavening agents like Wrise designed for frozen and refrigerated dough products.
Off Subject but does anybody know the name of this song in this video? Thanks.
Did you get any resolution here? I would love to make the batter ahead of time!
@Ben Johnson any idea whether we could use isomalt nibs instead of powder? it's all i could find in the city
@Tim Salazar yessir you can. HOWEVER! It is best to run it through the blender first, it will help grind them smaller thus making them a bit easier to dissolve. Cheers. PS missed your face today buddy!
THANKS, DOOD!
Ben, is there a supplier of powdered isomalt? I have received two shipments from modernist pantry, and the crystal size has only increased (I wonder if they also changed suppliers on their end). It took a few annoyingly crunch corn breads for me to pulverize it in a blender, food processor failed to pulverize. If large crystals are common format for isomalt, a note about this extra step would be much appreciated in future recipes.
so i made these, far too sweet (for me) any suggestions as how to take down the sweetness?
Let's keep the pseudo-science off this site please. Thanks.
I made this for the first time for a dinner party tonight. I didn't have isomalt, but knowing how good cornbread is supposed to taste (I'm from the deep south), the recipe seemed pretty great even without it. My instinct paid off. In spite of the omission of the isomalt, it was the richest, moistest, most delicious cornbread I have ever made. This is definitely a recipe that I will make again!
I am trying to figure out how to scale this recipe. Has anyone tried in regular bread pans or a bundt pan?
Amazing recipe. Today was the second time I have made this. This time I used miniature cake pots and was able to find cornmeal but still left out the isomalt. I scaled the recipe in 1/2 and added 20g less sugar of the total combined weight of sugar and isomalt. They came out fantastic. I served them straight away with a little English twist, whipped cream and blackcurrant jam. American Afternoon Tea anyone?
You guys killed it!
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One of the properties of isomalt is that it behaves chemically like sugar, but doesn't taste as sweet. I'd say, just use less sugar.
It isn't pseudo-science, but that aside, I've found frozen organic (and non-GMO) corn at BJ's warehouse club.
I haven't used those but why not just use muffin pans - unless it's important to you to have the loaf shape? Do baked goods brown nicely in silicon?
Yep, works just fine without it
Hey ; dumb question; but if I did my math correctly- was the sugar 140g for half the recipe? I wanted to make half as well but then realized they use Isomalt and in singapore its impossible to find. Did it taste okay without it? Let me know.Thanks
I got the same result, I cant figure out why
